My memory has diminished significantly, especially if im stressed. I lose things, large amounts of cash even. I have forgotten to pick my kids up, just headed straight home without them. Also, I kind of shut down after a high amount of stress like all emotions and thoughts leave me. If you know someone with an autism spectrum disorder, i feel like someone in the high functioning range.
I want to get help, but im afraid of medication and what i might do with it, if it doest work. Has anyone else suffered with long-term personality changes following amitriptyline? Hey, a week ago I OD on amitriptyline and have no memory of the entire day I did it and the following two days when I was in hospital. Has anyone else experienced memory loss? Yeah I lost my memory of two days and my cousins told me that I was talking in riddles and was behaving like a madman and when I became conscious I found myself tied to a bed in the ICU with O2 mask and IV fluid syringe put into me.
My daughter is also suffering from personality changes and short term memory problems since her overdose nearly two years ago. She has been unable to work because of that. Have you had any improvement? If so, how did you manage to improve? You are describing my daughter after an overdose nearly 2 years ago. She has not been able to work due to short term memory problems and a big change in her personality. Have you improved at all? If so, what helped you to do so? I took 96 25mg tablets and was discovered the next day when I became semi conscious… My heart was bpm and my kidneys had failed… Within 24hrs I was OK but a little confused… My kidneys had started working and I had already Discharged myself?
I am going through the same thing. Thank you for sharing your experiences. They explained something to me. The Amitrip alone was probaby more than enough. I changed my mind a half hour later, made myself vomit, and lay down. I sat and stared and did nothing for hours, maybe days, entirely unaware of the passage of time. Family, friends, neighbors, etc badgered me endlessly until I checked into a hospital weeks later. I attributed my mental status to major depression, but I believe you are correct, it was an after-effect of the drugs or coma.
Unsure if there was any lasting cardiac damage. I was diagnosed with long QT syndrome some time after, but it could have existed all along. The experience revealed that if you are self-destructive, do not take chances with mixing chemicals if uncertain or seeking assistance in getting help, because your freedom will be taken away leaving you with very expensive hospital bills as providers take the most secure, expensive approach to avoid a repeat performance.
Fair-weather friends will RUN away and family members will walk on eggshells for years, but with bottled rage festering from emotional upset, stress, cost, abandonment, manipulation, etc. In some states, 30 yrs later you could still be unable to purchase a rifle for hunting. There is NO shame in admitting you need help and asking for it. In fact, one should be proud of accepting responsibility and asking for help instead of giving up or acting out to get it. Just a little more time often allows solutions to develop and percolate in your brain until you feel capable to recognize and pursue them.
Because, REALLY, charcoal and catheters and intubation and locked doors and restraints and being trapped with deeply crazy strangers while at the mercy of often kinda bizarre mental health professions is pretty much the definition of sucking balls. Am im process of planning suicide and this may make a difference to me. I have thought about doing this myself but I know these feeling are due to depression. Happiness for you may just be round the corner. I was on it 2 days and was looking in the grave yard for a plot, true story.
By all means, please get HELP!!!! I hav 50mg endept, will that b enough?? I can get another ? Thank you 4 all of stories? I hope toured still alive. I hope you are still holding on or getting help. I tried to od on a full bottle of amitriptilyne my each pill and ambien. It was the biggest mistake of my life. I was severely depressed but it is one thing that I am thankful failed at. I have two beautiful daughters that did not deserve what I did to them.
Suicide is a Very Selfish Act! You think that I will just die and bee done. But what about your friends and family that have to watch you die. They feel if only I did this or that. You take a cop out. And cause others so much pain. And FYI Amitriptilyne is one of the most painful ways to die. Nothing Is worth dying over. And the inpatient was the best thing to help me. I found out my true diagnosis and am on the right meds after 30 years. No IM not cured but my slogan is.
Be OK with the me I am today because I am better than yesterday and will be better tomorrow. So start by loving yourself! How did you fail at suicide by taking a whole bottle of mg? I have about 20 mg right now. Just sick of being here. Would love the release of death. Doubt I have the guts to do so. Most of these meds are crap. Find the right doctor. Loe dose dose adderrall, loe dose benzo, klonopin best for dution in your system.
Its worth being somewhat addictived to something, than to live in missery. My daughter has done this in February, nothing is worse for us knowing why and how! Me too…lying here thinking why go on? Have Valium, Endep and Temaze. Life has no meaning any more. You are so lucky to have life , more ppl out there suffering worse so bloody man up and stop being stupid…….
Hope you can live with yourself. This sort of response is what can push people over the edge. Implying they are just weak only confirms what they feel — that they are useless and worthless. I feel it a privilege reading some posts and real pain reading others common theme is be careful with the stuff. Thank you Persephone, for taking the time to write. You have made the most sense out of anything in my all years a severe mental health struggle and alchole abuse.
I hope that you can go on to help other people the way you have helped me tonight. Would love to see some of your words published in the big wide world. Hope we meet some day. I am so happy you have found what you needed. We need to be there for each other. We are the only people who understand each other! Revco, now known as CVS.. My 20 year old daughter hazel has taken 40 strips of 50mg amitriptyline and is laying in hospital right now and this is the third day of her not waking up please tell me how much you took when u overdosed.
I overdosed on endep and was in a coma for 3 days. Had I not collapsed on the kitchen floor I believe I would have not survived. When I recovered I was taken to a private psychiatric hospit where I was so sick in the stomach I had to learn how to eat again by myself. It is a dangerous drug. Be very careful with it. And then a couple of days later do another good hit. And then do it one more time. This will take your depression away Google DMT and read about it and research it before you try it it comes from Brazil but you need to find someone who can get it for you.
If I take them all it might work. How is your daughter.. I see a lot of interesting posts on your page. You have to spend a lot of time writing, i know how to save you a lot of time, there is a tool that creates unique, google friendly articles in couple of seconds, just search in google — k2 unlimited content. Ive just taken 1g mgs of the stuff, im 56kgs and normally 20mgs knocks me out, is the amount ive just taken , a dangourous amount??
Hey Danielle I took mg. And was in a coma on a ventilator in Icu for a wk. I have had memory issues as well as some altered personality traits. Damn gta go contact me dave katzenbach on fb if u wna tlk. I overdosed on amitriptyline in late , was comatose in ICU for at least a week, maybe more. My memory was severely compromised — I mean, my memory of anything is greatly diminished, both before and after the overdose. I lost a lot of memories, which is sad, and also reduced my capacity to form new memories.
Additionally I have had cardiac consequences, with a tendency towards bradycardia reduced heart rate. Anyone know why I have permanent heart problems after accidental amitriptyline OD? I get high heart rates and skipping for years. I take atenolol to control it. It makes no sense. I have all these heart problems after the OD for years happening every day. Does anyone know why I have permanent heart problems after an accidental OD on amitriptyline?
My heart has been skipping and going at a high rate since the overdose. I use beta blockers to control it. Why do you want to die? I love them to much to be so selfish. Please get help if I have enough strength to admit that I need help the funny thing is I asked my dr to send me mental health facility. Please get some help. How was the ED staff aware that you had ODed on amitriptyline? Did you tell them? Or have a history? Please advise asap… Lol. Amitriptyline and alcohol was Few months later found out that they followed no protocol.
No securing airway, aspirated and was decerebrate posturing and they did nothing. I was a nurse and I stayed unconscious for over 2 days. Is there not a standard of care for treatment and is it possible to go after hospital for not doing anything. I will never be able to work as a nurse or anything else. My son had died and I made a mistake but I deserved help. I was there within an hour. I was posturing and husband asked why? Told normal it was normal. Never did a level. I understand that I did it but they have a duty to act.
They failed to and I hold them responsible for that. I want to look at negligence because they failed to act. Just over 12 months ago I overdosed on amitriptylene, was in coma for a week, then hallucinating and a non retentive memory for another week. The third week was in a recovery ward for stroke victims relearning how to walk. Since then have been medicated with Sertraline which has been effective but still experimenting with the dosage. Currently taking mg per day. Find I a suffering from lack of energy and initiative and have some short term memory problems.
Most of the time I feel dazed and have impaired balance which has resulted in some dangerous falls. Is this all due to the overdose, or is there an Sertraline component? Is this going to be for ever? I overdosed on Celexa and amitriptyline over 7 years ago. I was on life support for 4 days. My heart rate has been high ever since. Any one else experience this? I believe I overdosed on when I was yr old took 13 mg tabs I now at 36yrs cannot have children ,heart palpitations 19yrs and horror short term memory since.
Morning after taking I hard exreme difficulty walking staying awake and troubles breathing and eating for four dys. I never told anyone I o. I think I may have overdosed two nights ago on amitriptyline. I was drinking heavily, and have been taking it for migraines once a night. I suffer from depression and anxiety, untreated, and I feel like the amitriptyline made it more severe. I took all remaining pills in the bottle and ended up feeling really distorted and high. When I woke up again, I vomited, and my legs went numb.
I honestly thought I was dying. I just feel off. Do I need to visit the hospital? Can I die this late after taking so much? There were about pills remaining of the lowest dose. I overdosed in at the age of I took enough to die, layed down and entered a coma that lasted?? I also slightly recall denying to a hospital person that I tried to kill myself.
But of course I did. I also remember a neighbor visiting me—she was the only person other than my husband who knew where I was. This woman shot herself in the head and died four years later. Her family was devastated. I have no long-term health affects now that I know of. But the emotional damage that I did to my children is lifelong. I thought at the time that I was leaving for their benefit, but that was depression and mental abuse talking.
The man that drove me to that brink has since destroyed another woman. I and my children are so much better off without HIM. You stay here too. I would appreciate your views. I had about 10 minutes I think or less and started a voice recording. Woke up 4 days later in ICU. He busted the bedroom door down and called He never let me hear the recording. I was laying down on the bed fell with recorder in hand. I just want to say this much to all you guys and girls out there….
I have read these posts and it is shocking. Today my sister lies in a coma for taking an overdose of tablets which I also wont name!!! Do you have any idea how selfish your act is?? Do you know what you do to the people who actually care, the unnecessary suffering and pain caused by the loss of a child, sister, brother etc. I feel sad and pitty for you. A nun once told me that God knows each and every persons strength, and he will never burden you with something you cant handle.
You and You alone can change your life and nobody can do that for you. If you want to commit suicide it is because you are to lazy to find another way to deal with your anguish. Also stupidly suicidal thoughts are a site affect of most anti depressants. Be kind have empathy you never know you may need help your self? You mean well but you have no clue of how a mental illness changes everything.
I hope you have a nice life and l hope mine ends tonight. Sounds to me like your the selfish one! I personally know all about this myself due to earlier attempts my own self years ago! God is LOVE sweetheart! That type of nonsense talk went out with the dinasors! These people are suffering enough already! Sorry to hear about your ex i feel like im in that exact situation now. The pain has just become unbearable. This type of nonsense talk went out with the dinasors! Spot on…i tried 22 yrs ago after taking mg of amitriptyline but unfortuantly i was found…things havent improved since them so round 2 on the way.
So, get off your judgemental high horse, and post something that will help. Wow…reading these are alarming yet I will share. I flipped…and I mean just lost it and flipped over in and took a LOT of amitrip along with some Lorcet and clonazepam. Stayed there for a week and then home. I am now suffering from some serious memory issues of short term. Like immediately short term. I went for a complete psych evaluation last year due to worries about it and he said I failed thr stoop test.
I asked my hisband what the Dr said the long term affect would be and he said brain damage. I feel like I have some of that going on. Letting you all know…. I hope you all really think about the future ….. Please dont do that too yourself my mother just done this 3 days ago and has no memory no balance and speech problem …no clue whats going on at the moment.. At this time it might feel like its the best thing too do but it really isnt…. All i know is that the guilt i have right now is unreal that i didnt know my mother wanted too end her life and how sad she was too try…She really thought everyone hated her and its because she has a illness …She is well loved by everyone …Just like YOU are..
I have only mg of Amitriptyline and was hoping it would send me to eternal sleep so I cn get out of the living hell that is my life. My female partner accuses me constantly of belittling her. I never know what sort of mood she is going to be in when she wakes up. She has driven away all my friends so I have nobody to turn to. Maybe I just throw myself under a train. Both of my elderly parents take so much medication for all their health problems I barely recognise them.
If you can get yourself some restbite time or you will snap. Naughty yes, essential yes? Now she in her room first day off vint and other things. Honestly going crazy myself just want her to grab me and day my name and tell me she loves me anyone have a clue to my question? Did any of you suffer a lot of pain? I have the Amitrip cocktail ready, but scared of fits and convulsions. How quickly did you fall asleep? Show how your diagnosis and treatment history has brought you to this place—how there is no other reasonable option to what you are asking for or how the alternative is not preferable.
Be sure to include diagnosis codes and treatment codes your medical professional will provide these. They may tell you that they have tried to get your service covered, it was denied and therefore this is the last word. Their office appealed the first rejection. They were again denied. Undeterred, I asked for copies of my medical records. I called my insurance company and asked what I needed to do. In a case like this there is actually a financial disincentive for them to have insurance cover it; therefore, they may not be as aggressive as you will.
What does that mean? If I had paid out of pocket they would have received almost three times the amount of money that they receive when compensated by my insurance company directly. When the office tried to get the injections covered, the insurance company denied the request on the basis that this was an experimental treatment— not FDA-approved for this use. I provided medical history sheets from my medical file. I documented every drug I had take until that point to try to prevent migraines and the dates I took them.
I told them how the neurologist felt the Botox might help me. I included the original letter he had written to the insurance company. I showed through my history with the numerous failed attempts with other drugs that the situation had not improved and in fact the side effects from those drugs had been debilitating. I explained I had no other choice, and while it might be not-yet FDA approved, Botox was actually on the verge of receiving such approval I was proved right when it did receive approval for this purpose less than one year after my request.
Include all relevant information and send appeal within the required time period. In the letter be sure to include: If there are multiple codes that apply which ones are the best to use? Do they have any sample letters for appealing? What has their experience been with your particular health insurance company? Take the rejection letter you received and read it carefully. It is vital; in it, the company must tell you why they are rejecting your claim usually one of those three reasons I mentioned at the outset.
This is the key to your appeal. You must address this issue. The facility we used for the DOC band told us that insurance claims were most often denied for this service. I explained that because of his neck abnormalities the head deformity was an inevitable result of having his head fixed in one place. Because he was unable to move his head properly he had this inevitable result of a physical abnormality. I ended up having two helmets approved for coverage.
Through this policy, hospitals that specialize in certain conditions are treated as participating centers in-network. So, if you wish to have medical care at a facility that specializes in a certain medical condition be sure to check whether they are included in this special program. This is a big one. What do I mean by this? My prescription drug plan said only 9 pills of my expensive migraine medication would be covered each month. I frequently needed more than that number.
I decided to investigate. I called my insurance company and the administrators of the prescription plan and asked how I could get that number increased because it was medically necessary for me to have more than that number. They said my doctor could call and make a request. He called and they agreed to cover 18 pills. I received a temporary increase to 18 pills a month for one year, renewable each year by going through the same process.
Our plan covers 30 PT visits for Tristan per year. He needs significantly more than that number. When the 30 are up, I write and document the medical necessity for him to receive more based on his anatomical defects. I state the skills he is getting with the visits and how they are necessary for his functioning. The physical therapist sometimes needs to include a letter and our pediatrician needs to write a prescription for the services.
No matter what drug, service, surgery, or treatment you are appealing, you must be organized, take notes, and document everything. The key to my system is my medical binder. Have one for each family member. To see how to organize this essential tool, read my blogpost here. Be sure to have a fully documented medical history. I learned that tip from my grandfather, a court stenographer for over 50 years: Obviously, this post is not a comprehensive list of all types of conditions and how to win appeals for them.
I cannot tell you what will work for you; I can only tell you what has worked for me. I hope that by doing so and sharing some of these anecdotes you will learn something that you can apply in your own case. I realized while writing this piece over the past few weeks that there is so much to say about it. Tagged advice , appeals , claims , denial , drugs , health insurance. Your advice is very good—and I think if more patients were organized and knew their own histories, they would get better care as well as better results with insurance companies.
Another great and informative blogpost. I am learning so many important lessons about navigating modern life from you that I am starting to think of you as mentor that is, if mentors are allowed to be younger. This is great advice for everyone who has or who might need to navigate the messy world of health insurance. Thank you, as always Lisa, for informing and caring! What a great piece, Lisa!
Thank you for your fighting instinct! Perhaps lazy typos are also why my claims are getting rejected! The fact that you have had to fight so hard to receive the proper coverage and are now willing to share, makes me even more grateful to know you. Having two major medical issues between my husband and myself in a 5 year period has been a financial burden we never expected.
Unless people such as yourself are willing to take on these insurance companies, not taking no for an answer, the risk of being financially overwhelmed with medical expenses is high. I applaud what you have taught yourself to do. It is a daunting task to deal with all the paperwork and phone calls, especially when you are suffering from an illness.
The information and knowledge you have shared here should be paid attention to by all. Healthy or unhealthy, we all need to know how to get every penny of coverage we can. Thank you Lisa for all that you do to help other people, every day. Thanks for putting it all together in one clear piece. I finally got someone on the phone who told us about Pace, which covered the cost of his scrips until his insurance reset on January 1.
These days, the patient unfortunately or someone close to them has to work hard at being their own advocate. You make a good point that needs to be addressed. I simply am uniformed about the subject you are addressing. Maybe there is a different discipline or specialty that is better at addressing the pertinent issues you are raising. I wish you the best of luck in finding the answers you seek. Thank you for this post. Your post gives me hope.
I will be using it as a resource to appeal the denials myself. My son was just denied surgery three times for a Tumor in the Hypothalamus. Our doctor has had two peer to peer discussions with the doctors from the insurance company. Today, our doctor emailed us and informed us that our third appeal has been declined. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your experience with everyone! Hope you never have to go through it again though. Wish you the best!
I was just denied surgery peroral endoscopic myotomy for Achalasia. Aetna said its still experimental so I have to start my process and try to fight for my surgery. Good luck to all of us! Were you successful with your appeal for the POEM procedure? Do you have any advice or feedback about your experience? I had a marker test done for ovarian cancer.
It came back triple what it should have been so my doctor ordered another test. No one ever suggested blood work might not be covered. I got a letter from my doctor and filed an appeal which was denied. I am not filing a second appeal. Came across this article in a google search about insurance appeals. Thank you very much. My husband is supposed to have surgery on Wednesday. On Friday night we got the letter saying that his surgery was denied. If we pay out of pocket for the surgery a very generous offer from family, not otherwise within our ability can we still appeal the denial?
Thanks again for sharing your knowledge and experiences! Yes you can appeal after the surgery has been performed and ask your Ins. Its true many time health insurance company denies claim. Your post help them to take a right step. Thanks for this nice and informative post. Thanks for your article. Its very informative and good. Hello friends visit here for best health tips: I received my first letter from my insurance company denying to pay due to experimental surgery.
Also, if you have employer group insurance, you are most likely entitled to detailed protections under Federal ERISA law. You also have a right to civil action against the group under ERISA for breach of fiduciary responsibility. What if you have done this several times before and are exhausted from it. Is there a service for this? Thank you so much for this valuable article! I have a question about a claim that was slightly covered.
Is there any chance of fighting this for a lower amount? Thanks again for your wonderful article. Why not contact the hospital, the referring provider, and your insurance? And sometimes providers just post from the remittance advice EOB without checking to see if a mistake was made. Or maybe they just need to help you fix it. Oh, I am so very sorry. I see that the author of this article has passed away in March Thank you Lisa Adams for all your work.
Thank you to her family as well. Among other things, the law includes requirements for the processing of benefit claims, the timeline for a decision when you file a claim, and your rights when a claim is denied. If you follow the rules but feel your plan has not, you may wish to consult a legal expert. I am reading your info on Lisa Adams page. Perhaps you can assist me? I have three denials and am about to go thru the ER to have my spinal surgery.
I have never been denied any treatment be it antibiotics for minor infections right up to the present when, now aged almost 81, I am being treated for chronic lymphocitic leukemia. I once paid to have a tooth extracted If anyone in the USA would like to get more info on our system do write to me at e-mail segudunum gmail.
A loved one had a tumor removed from behind her eye. It was a keyhole operation. The surgeon removed the meniges and bone that the tumor invaded. They replaced with metal and plastic. She has sphenoid wing meningioma. It has to be reconstructed. Can she fight this? A part of life in Life Support Insurance. Thank you so much for your advice it really give me hope. I am just a student and i have to pay a lot for my son vitiligo treatment.
Can I back and ask the insurance company to pay all my bills because they did not denies it yet, but the nurse said to me they denied them! I have 6 denials so far as of I am going to do the exact thing as you described.. I am going to the ER next week and have my spine surgery done that way. Thank you for sharing! Your words are better than some preachers and doctors — to put it mildly! Sadly, this also shows American Health Industry is too powerful yet broken.
Thank You for your response. Found out more info on the way. Thanks to the Govenor for that! Next to Obama the Govenor gotta go to. My father broke his femur after surgery, he was admitted to rehab for physical therapy. He is an altzehimers patient. Upon his follow up appointment doctor advised no weight bearing prescribed additional physical therapy.
He has an appointment Jan 4th and doctor anticipated to begin weigjt bearing therapy. Humanna denied services and he will be discharged Dec 24th. Humana denied because they said he has plateaued. Any ideas how we can get doctors orders approved allowing him yo remain in rehab? My son denied much needed spine surgery by Aetna insurance Co.
He is a Police Sargeant and has been out of work for over a month. His condition is debilitating and his doctor has stated surgery is medically necessary. It is very difficult to see him in so much pain. Reading this blog has gave me the courage not to give up on a recent denile for a particular WLS. I will never know now because I was denied the test. How is it that some stranger gets to decide if a test is a necessity or not. What does one do now , not only deal with this illness but no help either!
Thank you for the informative advice. Is this the same avenue to take when no physical therapists will take my insurance? Been diagnosed with MS and insurance has denied paying any on it plaease tell me or give me ideas to fight this. I am trying to determine if I can fight a claim processed by insurance that they processed accepting the billed rate for an emergency room visit. My husband was in the emergency room, subsequently admitted and had emergency surgery last December.
All bills hospital, emergency room, a ton of doctors, labs, etc. I called the insurance company and was told while unusual it was processed as acceptable. I asked them to compare to ER bill from same hospital for my son last September, this was written down by at least half and for my other son the previous August at an out of network hospital that was also written down similarly. I asked if it was possible to have it reviewed. I asked the hospital to resubmit and was told that if it was already processed and approved by insurance they could not resubmit.
Any other way to contest?? I am very frustrated. I do know that it pays to fight. I myself had emergency surgery to remove my gall bladder years ago. Because of some bad test results they would not discharge me and allow me to consult a surgeon….. While we looked into his ability as a surgeon we did not think to ensure he was a network doctor at a networked hospital.
Long story short, emergency procedures should be covered as in-network even if out of network. The insurance company kept saying it was not submitted as an emergency, the doctors office kept saying it was. The insurance company agreed it should be covered as an emergency but could not change the way it was submitted. I had to pay to have my hospital records pulled. I had been making payments towards my bill and stopped when I realized I had already paid what would be my share had it been covered in network and continued to fight The surgeon refused to accept a lower payment and eventually sent me to collections.
I finally wrote a letter to the surgeon and the insurance company and copied the state insurance board and noted it on the letter. Less than one week later, the surgeon accepted in-network rate and gave me a refund. What should they do? Health insurance companies do not really care about their customers. Their job is to avoid paying as many claims as possible.